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Dri Kulsane Amarr Body Count Inc. Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2009.11.11 20:14:00 - [1] I'll take my post here, since this seems to be what's needed. There is no respect in making a change like this. Bad enough it was decided that such glorious ships were down graded to a sub class level at the start, but now the decision to take us all from behind while we were smiling. I've been an Aeon pilot for a long time. I've held onto the ship through tick and thin. For the past few years I've trained one character to use that ship to the best of it's abilities, just like so many others here posting. I know what they are capable of, and with this change you are reducing them to nothing all over again. If it's an isk sink you were in need of CCP, then you just pulled the wool over a lot of peoples eyes here with this. Imagine how many Mothership's have been sold in the past few weeks since the original announcement was posted about them being "FIXED". Well, all those people just sank their isks into an area of the game which will never be used again as it stands. Sincerely, Dri Kulsane
Dri Kulsane Amarr Body Count Inc. Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2009.11.11 22:45:00 - [2] Originally by: SXYGeeK The change has some merrits, It will reduce the number of fighters on the field which will have an effect on lag (need for speed) It will focus the supercarrier on the role of anti-cap with its Fighter Bombers However, to compensate for the reduced numbers I think a bonus to the fighter bomber damage output per carrier skill level is in order. perhaps even to fighters as well (though that could make them over powered when assigned) that being said, I still hate it :( I see no rational explanation as to why this has been changed on the test forums. There's no reason to consider merit's regarding something which to our currently knowledge NERF's what is. None of what you've said gives reason to half the damage of these already extremely limited ships offensively. So have at it CCP, give us a reason why you have change these ships on the test server. Or do you want to wait until another 50/100/1000 players ask you the same question??? Short of hearing or is there some other issues preventing you from posting something constructive here?
Dri Kulsane Amarr Body Count Inc. Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2009.11.11 23:00:00 - [3] Originally by: SXYGeeK I'm just playing devil's advocate as we have no other response here... It realy don't please me either. I understood what you were hoping to do. Perhaps after CCP grow a pair and respond, we can have a constructive discussion and voice both sides Should there be like a hundred GOONS already after posting here, seeing as we've already had a few??? Come on...do your FOFOFOF thing and get everyone else who cares about these issues to step up and post. Never thought I'd hear myself click that on a keyboard
Dri Kulsane Amarr Body Count Inc. Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2009.11.11 23:08:00 - [4] Originally by: The Mittani Originally by: Dri Kulsane Originally by: SXYGeeK I'm just playing devil's advocate as we have no other response here... It realy don't please me either. I understood what you were hoping to do. Perhaps after CCP grow a pair and respond, we can have a constructive discussion and voice both sides Should there be like a hundred GOONS already after posting here, seeing as we've already had a few??? Come on...do your FOFOFOF thing and get everyone else who cares about these issues to step up and post. Never thought I'd hear myself click that on a keyboard i mentioned this to capswarm but most of them think supercaps are dumb and hate the old guard players in supercaps the most irksome thing about this **** is that all of these are unannounced stealth nerfs. where's the competent capital dev team that had things sewn up around fanfest? who are these people, and what are they doing to break all the thus-far good and settled changes? Thanks for spreading the word regarding this thread anyway mate! -Dri
Dri Kulsane Amarr Body Count Inc. Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2009.11.12 08:52:00 - [5] Originally by: Gimora Edited by: Gimora on 12/11/2009 00:30:29 And for once i ccp actaly didd somthing that createt NO COMPLAINTS! Until you didd this! Credit where credit is due, CCP's team did come up with some fantastic changes. Now lets face it, no self respecting 0.0 pilot who has been piloting a mothership before would agree to what has now been added to the test server. Whoever is responsible for testing this new amendment out, perhaps they could step forward and help us to understand where he or she is going with this? As for all of you who are posting here in this thread, commenting about those who have said they will cancel their subscriptions because of this. You seem to fail at understanding why people are posting here If we voice of concern over something which is being tested, and not yet confirmed, at least there is a better chance that it will be reversed. We all sit quiet, then it'll just be assumed we're good with it and they'll move onto the next issue. So please, continue informing CCP if you are upset about this issue. Let them know that this will have an effect on peoples game play. Let them know if you have had enough of this ridiculous carry on. But, please don't don't bother posting here complaining about someone doing so.
Dri Kulsane Amarr Body Count Inc. Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2009.11.12 09:01:00 - [6] Originally by: Mynas Atoch Edited by: Mynas Atoch on 12/11/2009 08:52:24 Can we have one little buff to balance this nerf .. a reprocessing module for POS that can take a supercap with a reasonable efficiency? Please? That will sort most of the complaints in one go and let a lot of older players disinvest emotionally from this issue. You win, we win, everyone is happy and we all get on with our lives. And no, I'm not joking. Myn But Mynas, I like my half arsed bestower Even more so, I like the fact that someone has put the time into developing them in a useful way. Greetings from Finland btw o/
Dri Kulsane Amarr Body Count Inc. Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2009.11.12 15:30:00 - [7] Originally by: CCP Nozh Hey, The changes on Singularity now, are intentional. The drone control units are however broken at the moment, and are being fixed. New stats for "Compact Citadel Torpedoes" (launched by fighter bombers): Explosion Radius: 3500 Explosion Velocity: 45 Damage Reduction Factor: 6.5 (magic number) Damage: 3600 Super carrier build cost, reduced by 40%. Estimated build cost around 5-6bn. What we want to create is an anti-capital ship/role, which is more effective than dreadnaughts against moving targets. They can currently reach 7200 DPS (9000 DPS on the Nyx), provided they are fitted for damage and are being supported by fellow pilots. To put this into perspective, the old motherships used to deal 2000 DPS, 2500 DPS (3125 DPS on the Nyx) with drone control units, additionally they've received a huge hit-point boost. The main advantages everyone seems to be overlooking is that Super carriers don't need to commit to a battle like Dreadnaughts nor do they have to be stationary while dealing damage, and of course the fact that they're immune to Electronic Warfare. By fitting drone control units, pilots are increasing their damage potential greatly while sacrificing survivability. It becomes a hard choice, but being capital ships, they should reach their maximum potential when working together as a team. There is currently a devblog in the making which should clarify the big picture a bit. -Nozh Ah, so you're the 'special' child who's been out playing around with the big boys toys. Perhaps you should go home and check with mummy and daddy about what you're trying to do. I was of the understanding that a well respected and former player regarding super capitals was dealing with this. You know, shoving something this size up someone's back side without as much as a please and thank you isn't polite. You're talking about a reduced cost for building these ships, but what about all those which have existed for years and all those while are currently in build? When will we be receiving the refund? You seem to be the most closed minded Developer I have ever come across, I'd expect something better from a company I've worked with and respected for near 7 years. You cannot and will not remove 40% of what these ships are without cutting a piece of the community away. Mothership's have been an already limited platform since they were created, what you've done is **** us ya ungrateful jump start! I'll be expecting my forum ban in the mail, since I'm not going to let this one go!
Dri Kulsane Amarr Body Count Inc. Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2009.11.12 15:46:00 - [8] Originally by: xttz I never thought I'd say this but... bring back Seleene. Nozh can return to making coffee, cleaning the desks or whatever he did before. Quoting because we really need someone like Seleene to be assigned to this!!!

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